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title: "Honda Exec Says Lithium-Ion EVs Won’t Ever Be as Cheap as Gas Cars"
date: "2022-08-31"
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  - name: "Victoria Scott"
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# Honda Exec Says Lithium-Ion EVs Won’t Ever Be as Cheap as Gas Cars

![](<https://www.thedrive.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/31/200053_Honda_e_launch.jpg>)
*\<em\>Honda\</em\>*

Acura's first EV, [a GM-codeveloped SUV](<https://www.thedrive.com/news/the-acura-zdx-is-coming-back-as-an-electric-suv-with-a-type-s-variant>), is finally on its way, and it's likely the expensive lithium batteries inside it mean it'll cost more than a similar ICE SUV, according to the Vice President of Business and Sales for American Honda Dave Gardner. He told *The Drive* last week that current battery technology won't reach the affordability it needs for cost parity with existing ICE vehicles, and instead, Honda is betting on solid-state batteries.

While all mass-market electric cars currently for sale currently use some form of [lithium-ion battery](<https://www.thedrive.com/tech/the-life-of-an-ev-battery-from-cradle-to-grave-and-why-recycling-is-still-so-hard>) for power storage, Gardner said "We \[Honda\] don't really believe that the current lithium-ion technology is the long-term solution." Instead, Gardner said that solid-state batteries, a [still-developing technology](<https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1132001_bmw-promises-prototype-solid-state-batteries-before-2025-in-production-by-2030>) that's only been used in a few [prototype EVs](<https://www.thedrive.com/tech/42287/toyota-is-road-testing-a-prototype-solid-state-battery-ev>), are going to be "the game changer for us," as it will allow for lower-priced EVs that are "in the neighborhood of what a nice \[ICE\] vehicle costs." While he admits that solid-state batteries are "not around the corner", he also said Honda is actively working on their development and has increased its R&D efforts into them, and is now attempting to do small-scale tests. And those small-scale tests keep getting bigger: Honda announced Monday that it is investing [$310 million into an experimental production line project](<https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Technology/Honda-chases-next-big-thing-in-EVs-solid-state-batteries>) to test mass production of solid-state batteries.

![](<https://www.thedrive.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/19/03-Acura-Precision-EV-Concept.jpg>)
*Acura Precision EV Concept Acura*

Honda isn't alone, either, as the entire industry has had to grapple with the same problems Gardner discussed. While lithium-ion batteries have gone from a staggering $1,200 per kWh of power stored to a much more reasonable $132/kWh [over the past decade](<https://www.visualcapitalist.com/breaking-down-the-cost-of-an-ev-battery-cell/#:~:text=As%20electric%20vehicle%20(EV)%20battery,just%20%24132%2FkWh%20in%202021.>), the raw materials needed to construct them have been subject to [supply-chain issues](<https://www.thedrive.com/news/44817/how-ford-beat-the-ev-supply-chain-crunch-to-avoid-tesla-like-price-hikes>) and [questionable mining practices](<https://www.thedrive.com/tech/batteries-for-electric-cars-now-demand-more-cobalt-than-phones>) that could limit further cost reductions—or even roll back the advances that have [already been made](<https://www.thedrive.com/tech/26675/cobalts-perfect-storm-rattles-electric-car-supply-chain>). Meanwhile, some manufacturers believe that true price parity between ICE vehicles and EVs won't be [reached until batteries reach $50/kWh](<https://www.thedrive.com/news/45061/evs-and-gas-cars-wont-cost-the-same-any-time-soon-mercedes-says>), which likely won't be attainable with current technology. Some research suggests that nearly all the energy that can be theoretically stored in a [conventional battery cell has been found](<https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/has-li-ion-reached-the-point-of-diminishing-returns>), and further cost decreases will have to [come from cheaper raw materials](<https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/latest-news-headlines/as-battery-costs-plummet-lithium-ion-innovation-hits-limits-experts-say-58613238>), rather than increased efficiency in the battery itself. Without significantly cheaper raw materials—[that likely aren't going to be found](<https://www.thedrive.com/news/44482/stellantis-ceo-says-suppliers-need-to-brace-for-huge-ev-costs>)—today might be as cheap as lithium-ion EVs can *get.*

All this that makes Gardner's belief that solid-state batteries will "be the turning point in terms of crossing that affordability threshold" seem downright likely. When they get here, though, is anyone's guess; even Gardner said "when that's exactly going to happen... I can't tell you that."

## Author
Victoria Scott is a former staff writer for The Drive. She began in the automotive industry as a freelancer in early 2021, fresh out of a programming job at NASA Mission Control.

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