---
title: "You’re Full of Shit: A Drunken Argument About Tesla"
description: "Grown men drinking and fighting about cars. So Thursday."
date: "2016-01-28"
modified: "2017-01-04"
authors:
  - name: "The Drive Staff"
    link: "https://www.thedrive.com/authors/the-drive-staff"
url: "https://www.thedrive.com/article/1908/youre-full-of-shit-a-drunken-argument-about-tesla"
categories:
  - "News"
  - "News by Brand"
  - "Tesla News"
tags:
  - "Electric Vehicle"
  - "Tesla"
---

# You’re Full of Shit: A Drunken Argument About Tesla

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So *The Drive*’s chief auto critic Lawrence Ulrich and contributing editor Alex Roy walk into a bar…

Our guys don’t always see eye-to-eye, but these two are truly at odds. Lawrence is thoroughly unimpressed by the Tesla Model X SUV, which he says is late to market, a maintenance liability and, generally, a thing made for “rich fucks in Silicon Valley.”

Alex, conversely, believes the Model X, and Tesla at large, is symbolic of something broader and more important: Progress. We put an open tab and a camera in front of them. Things got heated.

Some background: Alex used a Tesla Model S to[ set the electric car transcontinental driving record](<https://www.thedrive.com/accelerator/591/this-team-just-broke-the-ev-cross-country-record-in-the-tesla-model-s>) last year. Lawrence, documented[ man of the people](<https://www.thedrive.com/new-cars/369/sorry-friends-but-the-tesla-model-x-isnt-progress>), was on the debate team in high school and can hold his liquor with aplomb.

Twelve beers. Two goliaths. One electric car company.

The automotive barstool debate is back.

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